Whats your set-up? [Archive] - AccordRacing.com

TOP END MS

12-08-2003, 10:35 PM

Whats everyone got for a suspension set-up? Also post if you like or dislike your ride quality/performance and why..

- Tokico Illumina shocks
- Eibach Sportline springs
- Energy Suspension bushing kit
- 16" ROTA Slipstreams
- Falken Tires
- Sustech sway bars
- Neuspeed front upper strut bar

I love the ride quality, height, everything! Rides better than stock and makes a huge increase in cornering abilities.

jdmaccordbo!916

12-09-2003, 12:43 AM

tokikos blues
H&R sport line 2.25" drop
EBC slotted aan cross drilled rotors
stock calipers
raybestos ceramic brake pads
stock bushings -soon will be changed out when i get hte money.
an no sway bars yet..

i like the ride other than the fact that im sitting like 3-4" off the ground... it rides surprisingly smooth, an it only realy makes noises when it is cold as beans outside...

matts

12-09-2003, 05:55 AM

neuspeed springs on stock shocks - i like the ride, although many people find it too stiff.

soon to be added:
17x7 team dynamics wheels
?kumho tires?
neuspeed front strut bar
dc rear upper strut bar

DEaccord95

12-09-2003, 09:04 AM

i'm running on coilovers and various strut/tie bars......

vasponger

12-09-2003, 09:07 AM

post how far yall are dropped to...im looking for decent coilovers since my exhaust pipe hangs to low i cant put my kybs and springs on

Carreragt2e

12-09-2003, 09:47 AM

When I had my cord..

Tein SS full coil overs
Falken Azenis tires
Strut tower bar
Polyurethane end links cause the old ones were busted
stock breaks and pads
Bought a full bushing kit but never got to install it. I have it for sale if anyone is intrested. see the classifieds under my post.

dampening setting set full force on the teins (yet I didnt think it was stiff enough, though all my friends thought it was the best they have ever ridden in or driven)
I had it dropped, shit, all I remember was that it was .75" from the lowest setting.
The teins gave me literally no body roll, even taking highway turns over 100(when no one was around of course)
You could sit in the car and shake it back and forth, and the amount of flex and roll you saw was dissapated in about 2 seconds. I know I got more than what I paid for..
the tires. I loved them. They are some of the gripiest mo fos Ive ever ridden on. I convinced my friend to get them for his supra and he loved them. He was running low 12s with the supra and had plenty of traction problems.. the tires helped him some.. didnt solve everything.
Dont know if my strut tower bar did anything.. at least that I could feel. I know it helped reduce chasis flex up front, especially with the stiffer force of the springs.

-Eric

matts

12-09-2003, 10:13 AM

i'm dropped around 1.75" all around, and i've only ever had a problem with the front scraping, never the rear.
what springs do you have that dropped it so much?

jaccord96

12-09-2003, 11:49 AM

iive got eibach sportlines, and kyb gr'2s in the front..... i need to get some for the back... i dont realy like the way it rides.... mabey the gr'2s are too stiff.

jdmaccordbo!916

12-09-2003, 12:51 PM

heheh i got like 3" ground clearence inthe front.. im going ot try an rase it up here in a few days maybe... i have another set of H&R's that are only 1.75" an then with the tokiko blues it should line just about perfect with the camber kit on the car now... instead of having to buy another kit ot match with the camber...ggrrrrrr

Carreragt2e

12-09-2003, 02:23 PM

3"? pussy. I had 1"

jdmaccordbo!916

12-09-2003, 02:35 PM

3"? pussy. I had 1" ya but you also have a lip on your car as well as it being lowered... heheheh

takezo

12-09-2003, 04:37 PM

Tokico Blues
H&R Springs 1.5" rear + 1.75" Front
15" rims w/ 195/60/R15 Firestone Firehawks <- yayy... :D
Stock rotors & calipers
AEM Brake Pads

Soon:
18" Tecnomagnesio Rims (still laying down in the garage)
Kumho ?? (cuz got good deal w/ this one) :D

Pros:
- Good handling performance at hi speed
- Good handling at the curves too

Cons:
- Still Too Low for me, keep scratched up my under body.

DEaccord95

12-09-2003, 04:48 PM

I just like Matt am dropped 1.75' all the way around, and have only had problems scrapping the front, and never the rear.

Carreragt2e

12-09-2003, 05:05 PM

Lip? If you count the stock one yes.
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?migration=1&image=http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/7/web/439000-439999/439134_14_full.jpg

That dosnt do much justice. You can sort of see the stock lip busted off alittle bit. And the scar on the left where the new head light is was a drifting accident. That was when I had my rally suspension on the car (aka stock ride height)
eric

jdmaccordbo!916

12-09-2003, 11:31 PM

oh .. hehehe i thought you had a lip on your car.. well i was guessing...lol..

vasponger

12-10-2003, 07:18 AM

jdmaccordbo!916

12-10-2003, 09:37 AM

ya takezo what the hell do you scrape on at 1.75 inches ?? oh wait i know why you scrape, cause you got the tokiko blues on there as well that pulled you down another inch right there at least... so then you are sitting more like 2.75" in the front instead of 1.75"... thats the only reason why you should be hitting with such a minimal drop, because of those tokikos..

Carreragt2e

12-10-2003, 10:19 AM

Yeah the tokicos will lower some more too. Dont go back to stock shocks though. Lowering springs and stock shocks shouldnt mix. I mean they can, but youll blow them out easily and the ride will be really fricken bouncy. I had TEIN S techs and stock shocks on my car for alittle while. They sucked. I dont recamend the S Techs. I got them cause Icouldnt afford normal teins, untill my friend deceided to try and drift his stupid transam and crashed it into a light pole. I got 9 stiches to the face, broken nose, some black eyes, and more fun stuff to go along with the party. I also got to cuss out a priest cause he thought he was a fricken docter... my head was bleeding all over.. I was tryin to write my name in the street with drippin blood(make the best out of the situation), then some priest comes out and tells me that Im not bleeding anymore and that I dont need to apply pressure to my forehead anymore with the , youll love this, you know those paper auto service floor mats, yeah I was using one of those... yeah anyhow, priesty didnt think was bleeding so I told him how I was really feeling.

peace. Keep the suspension setups comin!

matts

12-10-2003, 11:37 AM

ok, so i got some neuspeed springs (very similar to eibach sportlines) on stock shocks. i know i'm gonna need some new ones soon. what do you recommend if i want to keep it around the same height?

jdmaccordbo!916

12-10-2003, 11:49 AM

my friend deceided to try and drift his stupid transam and crashed it into a light pole.
lol.. inital-E (but in no way of any relation to the story though right)....

Infini Omega

12-10-2003, 02:08 PM

tokico illuminas and Suspension techniques 1.5" drop

matts

12-10-2003, 04:15 PM

is that like they are meant for 1.5" drop, or that they will lower the car another 1.5"???
thanks

vasponger

12-10-2003, 04:56 PM

yeah i got suspension tech springs but i think they are 2in drop, or does the shocks have to do with how far its dropped

jdmaccordbo!916

12-11-2003, 01:08 AM

the drop hight on the spring is what ever it says.. then if you got the short shocks..(you know the ones for lowered cars) that will normaly lowere you almost another inch or so... well at least it is that way with the tokikos.. the cradel sites alot lower than the stock one would...

Infini Omega

12-11-2003, 09:39 PM

i dont know if the illuminas are lower but yea imma just get me some teins. sick of figuring out whats best. i can get the SS set for 850 so im just saving up. or seeing if anyone could get it to me cheaper

vasponger

12-11-2003, 09:48 PM

i think im gonna hopefully sepp my suspension one day, get ground control springs and koni shocks

jdmaccordbo!916

12-12-2003, 12:52 AM

i heared that H&R finaly came out with shocks now, an tokiko has a kit out for the accords that will drop you 4" springs an shocks included.. just something i remembered..

jdmaccordbo!916

12-12-2003, 09:44 PM

wow you sound like you realy know what you want.. hope it works out for you

eyentheterrible

12-14-2003, 11:49 AM

hey yall i havent even started on my suspension. all i want is a level look to the suspension. cuz the rear looks higher thank the front. i only want to go low enough to make some 18's look crammed in. how low do yall suggest i go. i was thinking maybe 1-1.5 inches. to make it look level would i have like 1" in the front and 1.5" in the rear or the same all around? ive been looking into ground control springs and havent really decided with the shocks especially reading that some shocks make you an inch lower. can anyone help me out....this is an area i have no experience in other than replacing stock stuff.......never lowered anything........ever.........HELP!!!!!

matts

12-14-2003, 01:14 PM

i would really suggest deciding on the wheels first. the width of the wheel, or more importantly the tire will dictate how low you can go because of the control arm clearance. if you want more drop in the rear you might need to go with coilovers. unlike springs they allow you to adjust the ride height, but many people prefer the ride quality with springs.

vasponger

12-14-2003, 01:41 PM

eyentheterrible

12-14-2003, 02:02 PM

PeterCorreale

12-14-2003, 03:38 PM

adjustable coilovers
stock struts
front upper strut
stock wheels
ractive cross drilled and slotted rotors

i ordered a rear upper strut so that will be on soon, also gettin ready to order new struts.

matts

12-14-2003, 07:11 PM

get it straight. you drive your car for a quality ride, not for ride quality.

for the normal people who dont think as far fectched as i do
mont of us drive because of the speed and turns, and we would suffer comfort for performance :D

yo- come up to the north east. (i know PA isn't north, but its farther north than VA) the roads suck so hard. you'd get a concussion if you tried to go with super stiff suspension.

matts

12-14-2003, 07:16 PM

i know i read in the last forum that i could get 18's in and lower a little without having to get a camber kit. and also there were sizes of tires i could go with that wouldnt affect my speedo calibration anyone have those numbers again? hmmm coilovers.....ill look into that didnt consider haveing full control over how low i can go.. thanks anything else i should look into?

stock wheel/tire diameter - 195/60/15 = 24.21 total outside diameter
215/35/18 = 23.92
215/40/18 = 24.77
225/35/18 = 24.20

depending on the width of the wheel, any of these would be ok.

takezo

12-15-2003, 05:30 PM

hey matts, how bout 18x7 rims
is it ok to use 225/40/R18 ? I want 215 instead of 225 though...

matts

12-15-2003, 08:02 PM

215 width is good for 7" wide wheels
225/40s are 25.08 diameter. i'm not really sure how much this would effect everything, but i would stick to the 215/40. the 215/35's are about the same difference from stock, but the 40's will give you a smoother ride. vasponger might like the 35's though.

vasponger

12-15-2003, 08:39 PM

i want wider, i want 17" and 215's what would my tires and stuff be

matts

12-16-2003, 09:50 AM

the comment above was referring to you liking performance needs over ride quality. the bigger sidewall will give you a better ride, but also give more under weight, resulting in a little more body roll, and such. i think the effects of this are minimal if used as a daily driver.

i'm probably going with 215/40/17 when i get my wheels. that is 23.77" diameter.
215/45/17 would also work. 24.61" diameter.

eyentheterrible

12-16-2003, 03:00 PM

cool matts thanks for the numbers. btw how do you break down the tire sizes? id like to know if ya not too busy. im a math nerd just wondering what the 215 and 35 stand for.

vasponger

12-16-2003, 03:10 PM

ok so like a 35 would be a smaller profile tire right?

eyentheterrible

12-16-2003, 06:28 PM

i thought 35 meant it would be a wider tire? but it may affect heigth if put on different rims. i tried to get a lower profile tire for my grand am and it didnt work out. so ive never really under stood how tire sizes work

vasponger

12-16-2003, 07:17 PM

the 215 would be 215mm wide i believe, and 35mm wide tire.

eyentheterrible

12-16-2003, 08:08 PM

215mm wide which way? and 35mm ?

now im really confused.....haha maybe its the ganj

Infini Omega

12-16-2003, 08:17 PM

so slow it would 215 mm width of the tire not the profile and the 35 stands for 35% of that 215mm. very simple man. so if you have a staggered setup you can calculated the tire profile size to match

eyentheterrible

12-16-2003, 08:37 PM

Oh ok sweet

Infini Omega

12-16-2003, 08:59 PM

good now you know

takezo

12-17-2003, 03:17 PM

Ok, I already put my 18s with 225/40/R18 plus the alignment, the ride is smooth and I feel the rims lighter than my 15s (those 15s dunno what kind of made). And the important thing, my car is not really low anymore. No more scratch my under-body... problem solved.

BUT..
I have another problem now... I need camber kits. Those guys from tire shop told me that I gonna screw my tire up fast (around 10-12K miles) if I didn't fix it. So, what your opinion now? They asked 500 for all (front & rear) included labor, and 300 (front only). Damn it....

vasponger

12-17-2003, 03:56 PM

matts

12-17-2003, 03:57 PM

i'm planning on doing the fronts before i put my wheels on in the spring. ingalls camber kit for the front 2 wheels was around $120 for the parts. there is an install write-up on this site somewhere, and it looks easy enough to do yourself.

takezo

12-17-2003, 04:44 PM

500 for the full F&R camber kit plus installation, that aint bad really, most of the single tire kits ive seen are around 70-100bucs each so figure thats close to 350-400 for a full kit and 100-150bucs for installation. check what kit they are buying though!

Let's see..
I just did research.. on the internet, call the shop where I used to go, and now I even got better deal... ;) I'll tell U guys later. I always bargainnnnn... the budget style continue... ahaha

jdmaccordbo!916

12-18-2003, 01:42 AM

ya its easy to do it yourself..all you realy need is a socket a ratchet an a floor jack... it realy is that simple.. as for the rear you dont need to buy a kit for any price.. go to the hardwear store an buy some heavy duty washers.. that is all that the kit consists of anyways.. youll spend like $4.00 at the most for the rear..(all you gotta do is add the washers to the bolts an keep adding washers to the car untile the tire looks lined up straight with the fender wall). but buy a good kit for the front.. the only part your going to not be able to do yourself is the alignment/tow after it is done.. but that is like $60. all around... at least that is what i did.. an its workin just fine for me..

Infini Omega

12-18-2003, 02:11 AM

tein!!!!!!

takezo

12-18-2003, 07:19 AM

tein!!!!!!

Tein? Do they have camber kit??

myGrub

12-18-2003, 06:32 PM

These damn camber kits are freaking expensive! The washer kits for the rear do work, though.

Pedders 1.75" springs f & r (but rear actually dropped 2")
Koni Yellows (at the highest perch, it droppd the front another .5")
Whiteline 18mm swaybars

graphixdezign6

01-27-2004, 07:31 PM

Well first i was going to get Nuespeed Sport springs with Tokico Blues.
Then i thought about it.... I live in the northeast, we have some pretty harsh winters and if my car was dropped 2 inches i would be screwed.

So my new setup is going to be Skunk2 coilovers with either Tokico Illuminas, or maybe Koni Yellows. Probably get an ingalls camber kit too.
After all that is done i want to wrap my ex alloys with a 205/55/15 size tire.
That should give it a pretty low profile and also a nice width for performance.

Actually i changed my mind.
Im going with the Tein Basic set.
Still getting a camber kit.
And i think im staying with 15" maybe 16" rims.

Does anyone know how low these coilovers will drop.
That damn chart on teins site is confusing as hell.

Carreragt2e

01-27-2004, 09:17 PM

you can get freakin low. Tein SS is the same as basic only you can change the dampening force on the SS, so thats what 250 more gets you.

I had mine set .75" from the lowest setting and I shit I dont even remember how much that droped it. I had about an inche of wheel well for 14" steelies. If someone can explain to me how to post pictures on this site I can post the only side shot I had of my last Cord if thats even needed.

O and tein is making and I guess has camber plates for Cords, I think they cost about 300 some for the set. I would suppose you could interchange them with any sort of strut coilover combo. Dont know how theyd handle lowering spring, someone with money should experiment for the greater cause. though if you had money dont know why youd even bother. O currently I think you have to buy the camber plates that are for the Comfort Coil over types, Im fairly sure you can interchange them between differnt stuff, unless theres some magic peice that wont let you. Ive seen s13's with say tein camber plates and JIC suspension or vice versa. BUT see my thread about bad tein news regarding EDFC and tein SS for the future, they are redesigning some things, or you can be like me in the special catagory of things.

eric

96Accord96

02-02-2004, 11:04 PM

I'm looking into getting my car lowered soon, but I have no idea whatsoever what I need/have to buy in order for things to not have any problems. I don't mind scraping every so often just as long as it's not too damn much. What parts do I need to buy and which ones do you recommend? Thanks. :)

bcramer915

02-03-2004, 05:11 PM

my setup:

eibach sportlines
kyb agxs(front-1 rear-2)
ingalls front camber kit
eibach front and rear strut bars

....if anyone wants to know my opinion....if i ever do replace my shocks/struts ill be getting tokico illuminas or koni reds

my setup is damn good for a really good smooth ride....springs are too soft for racing tho...

next on the list is a rear sway bar....and that will wrap it up until something breaks