h22a or turbo

[-honda @ work-]

my accord 5th gen. has over 150,000miles, should i put an jdm h22a or turbo it?I think it would be stupid to turbo something with that many miles but ya'll tell me. THANKS :cowboy:

[AccordEx]

It is a lot of miles, but if engine has been taken care of turbo will work. There is a guy with F22A and he had it turboed at like 180k or something and its going fine.

H22A is always an option, but damn it people you need to start turbocharging your F series motors more!

[Accord4me]

hey thats my opinion, Accords should stay accords why make an Aclude? When people ask you what motor you have because you just beat their ass wouldnt it be better to say it was the stock motor? than saying oh yea well i put a 'lude motor in it... i mean i know its all about power... but lets get these F's running, i figure I can get on the up side of 250hp out of my F engine so it all depends what you do to it.

[acc90rd]

I guys is running 7.8 psi daily on a f22a engine with over 200k miles. But it's up to you... DO you want to spend all that money on the h22a and get a new block, or do you want your block with a lot of miles on it and turbo it to beat h22s... And you can always get a new f22b1/2 bottom end...

[MADMAX]

Get the H22 it gives you a nice power boost and you could always build on that if you turbo the f22 you won't have much further to go if you want more speed.
:firedevil

[5thGenLX]

well i'm turboing my f22, so i guess thats my opinion haha.

its up to you and the money and time you have to put into it

[5thGenLX]

if you turbo the f22 you won't have much further to go if you want more speed.
:firedevil
umm on stock engine you can run up to around 220hp/tq, upgrade the internals and you can go up to 300-350 without too much more work...

h22 needs a lot more work on it before it can take the boost an f22 can due to thinner sidewalls and high compression ratio and such

[cashmoney0596]

if you do it right its it possible to get 15psi out of a f23 or ne Fseries motor? cause i got my f23 chillen waiting to get into something

[acc90rd]

yes, 15 psi is very feasible. Forged pistons and new sleeves will get you there. So about $800, and you can run 15 psi. Although you might want to get rods too..

And madmax, bullshit. The f22(especially if you have the f22ax block) can go far, the f23 even farther. I'd say you can make about 400whp before you start running out of things to do to your car.

[H22accord]

What kind of FMU are you guys getting the f series turbos planning on running? jw

[Accord4me]

thanks for keeping max down.

[what?!]

.the only thing swaying me away from an f22 turbo is the unlegal-ness of it. i'd do it in a heartbeat instead of the h22a but greddy (who's turbo kits are all carb legal) doesn't make a kit for our car. we have a few peeps in here who'll be down so we should sign a petition for r&d on our engine huh...busting accord si-r would be nice but i'd rather turbo my f22...it's also a lil cheaper. i'd prolly run a apexi fms safc, whatever, thingy...

.quick hijack, which h22 will work best for the fifth gen 94-95 obd1 accord? is it the h22a1? i know the h22a2 is for newer preludes...done hijacking...

[MADMAX]

So all of you build your F22's & I'll build my H22 and post your #'s from the track no typing either pics of slips
:firedevil

[Accord4me]

what?..... was that supose to make sence? Mad max id like to see some picts of your H22 and what one do you have? and whats its power rating??? doe sit have an auto? is it an LSD? whats your 1/4 mile times with all that junk you have in you car? the numbers would be nice to see excpecialy after you posted all of the electronics you have in there you have to be pushing well over 3000 lbs I would guess 3500, even with the H22 thats not exciting driving.dont tell me you run under 3000lbs with all of that stuff eihter we're not dumb, 1/4 mile times and out put of ur engien and we can tell you how mutch you weigh.
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[MADMAX]

what?..... was that supose to make sence? Mad max id like to see some picts of your H22 and what one do you have? and whats its power rating??? doe sit have an auto? is it an LSD? whats your 1/4 mile times with all that junk you have in you car? the numbers would be nice to see excpecialy after you posted all of the electronics you have in there you have to be pushing well over 3000 lbs I would guess 3500, even with the H22 thats not exciting driving.dont tell me you run under 3000lbs with all of that stuff eihter we're not dumb, 1/4 mile times and out put of ur engien and we can tell you how mutch you weigh.
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Tracks close engine is out April you'll see my friend ;) its snowing in DA BEAN
:firedevil

[Ricanstylz00]

Really? Ours just opened not too long ago. Maybe it because of the weather over there in the east or something.

[MADMAX]

Really? Ours just opened not too long ago. Maybe it because of the weather over there in the east or something.
Yeah man it sucks when it comes to the Northeast opens late and closes early. I also put all new head pieces in it so I have to put some miles on it when it goes in in 2 WEEKS.
:firedevil

[Ricanstylz00]

Sounds cool man, take some pics when you can.

[MADMAX]

Sounds cool man, take some pics when you can.
I just updated my computer so I'm just getting into this stuff and this is my first forum so I'm going to buy a digital camera (any sugg.) I was thinking of using my friends new nextel? Can you use one of those new digital disposable cameras???
:firedevil

[Ricanstylz00]

I didn't know they made disposable digi cams. I either use my Sony Cybershot, or my LG camera phone.

[Slick2001AccordEx]

The lude motor will be a good choice if you decide on the motor, being that
theres more to do on a DOHC motor then to a SOHC, WHY is everyone so religious on swapping motors, THE MAIN POINT IS THAT ITS A HONDA MOTOR!!!!
If it was like a mitsubishi or mazda or ford toyota or what ever the F*@K then yeah we should all blow the car up, but as long as its not an imbred then all the power to ya, but ACCORD4Me has a point on the stock accord motor, I'De rather blow the doors of a DOHC accord with my SOHC F23 suckkers

[Accord4me]

i figure i can get about 250 NA horse power out of my F23A3 and maybe more, plus I dont sacrifice my torque by going smaller displacement like a 1.8 integra motor, or a 2.0 whatever motor. I agree about the fact that engines in a civic all the way to the TL have Honda stapmed on the head so there isnt that big of a deal... I just find it more fun to make a econo engine into a lude engine beater.

[what?!]

I didn't know they made disposable digi cams. I either use my Sony Cybershot, or my LG camera phone.

.haha i have the same setup haha...CYBERSHOTness and LGness!

.but yeah, i'd rather beat people in a true usdm accord. people would be like, "damn, got beat by a fat accord"...then they'd cry home to mommy for more money and a turbo with nawss and nfs underground2 to hone their skills haha...

[Accord4me]

hahah cuz you know using your thumb to drive a virtual car on a virtual track is just like driving haha!

[what?!]

.freal dude...it really works! it gets the nawss button timing down to a science. also, it'll get the impression permanently etched in your head that having a full crazy body kit, chrome twenny inch spinners and a fully customized trunk to hold that fatty system will still allow you to go fast...it's ok...it's jdm...

[Accord4me]

haah i know after i finished writing that i hopped on NFS2 hahhha but id rather be out driving than on a computer driving... it was made for kids that dont have their licenses or permits yet... but hey still fun...

[birdman]

Tracks close engine is out April you'll see my friend ;) its snowing in DA BEAN
:firedevil

do you have pics of the h22? ive only seen jbaccord's pics so far.

[MADMAX]

do you have pics of the h22? ive only seen jbaccord's pics so far.

I'm going to take my friends Nextel friday and take pics of my engine while its still out. I just sandblasted the valve cover still trying to figure out what to do with it (paint,anodize,powder coat,or clear coat)?
:firedevil

[what?!]

haah i know after i finished writing that i hopped on NFS2 hahhha but id rather be out driving than on a computer driving... it was made for kids that dont have their licenses or permits yet... but hey still fun...

.yeah. i seem to be better at drifting in nfsu1 tho. i'm pimp with the fd3s..i've tried tuning it in nfsu2 to handle like it does in nfsu1. i think the game's crap but i like the driftingness...

[cavargas00LX]

F20B. its an f series, DOHC motor. sleep_accord is swapping one right now. i've got the f23a which is a strong motor and i love it but i long for a dual over-head cam.

[Accord4me]

the F23A3 is only .1 litre and 10 horses shy of Scions DOHC 2.4 VVT-i 160hp engine, so us F23A3 boys dont have mutch to complain about... I love my F series...