timing belt

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long time no post...anyways ive broken down the h22a and now starting to clean and buy parts...i know the timing belt is one of the most important parts to honda engines and i was just wondering what type i should buy? i know GREDDY makes one but is it any better then just an O.E.M. belt?

and does anyone know any websites that sell like engine seals and gaskets and the like...just basic replacement parts. or is honda my only option?

[TheFirstNutZo]

try www.autozone.com (http://www.autozone.com) they have seals for at least SOME cars, they had head gaskets for my car I tihnk I don't really remember though.

Chances are the GReddy belt is going to be a stronger, lighter belt (thus freeing up HP), and chances are made of better material so that it can handle more heat and faster rotational speeds, so it'd function at higher RPMs (seems especially important if you are going to run a P28 chipped ECU on your H22 and redline at 9500)... on a stock (or near stock) engine I doubt the difference is going to be more than 1-2HP freed up, and since your not running really high RPMs your not going to get the engine that hot or get the belt turning that much faster... so it seems unnecessary.. but if your planning on building up a lot it may be a good idea just to get the better belt.

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oh snap, yes i totally forgot about the chip...p28, can you give me more info on that? and i just wanted to get some opinions from you guys about the belt, thanks for replying...ill prolly go with the greddy one

just to update on the engine

ive got it almost all stripped down, now i just have to start buying the little stuff like seals, gaskets, and the like

thankfully there were no cracks in the block and the pistons looked actually pretty good except for the fourth one which seemed to be a little scored

after i start getting the maintenance out of the way im going to have to start really planning out what performance piece i want first...i think its gonna be the pistons anyone have any suggestions?

for non engine mods im looking for a carbon fiber hood, better brakes, and a good radar detector any more suggestions?

the whole reason i'm building this engine is for sweet sweet vengeance, my friend has an RSX which he claims is a god-car, and now he just put in a 65 shot bottle of nitrous, took me for a spin and its really nice...ive always hated the idea of nitrous but i actually considered some ZEX after he gave me a test drive...what are your opinions on nitrous? should i look into buying a bottle?

ill keep you guys posted on the progress of the engine and hopefully be able to post some pics, thanks to anybody who read this and has some sort of response i really appreciate it.

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wait wait, i almost forgot...my friend with the RSX's friend told me to buy a B series fuel pump for my h22a engine, he said the higher pressure would be good for low rpms...is there any validity to this?

[TheFirstNutZo]

screw Nitrious oxide. Thats my personal opinion, and is shared by a few here on the site... but it IS definitely cheap power. I personally would rather put in the time, patience, and money to build the engine up properly, and then run a high amount of boost on the engine. OR build up the engine and then put some high compression pistons in (stock is 8.8:1, I have a friend who swapped to 11:1 and said he got some massive performance boosts... thats on a F22A though). Personally I think turbocharging is the way to go. Unlike Nitrious (which is illegal in most states and will get you a hefty fine for having on the road.. not just the bottle but even having an engine equipped with a nitrious breather), turbocharging is ALWAYS there. you don't have to buy bottle refills, and it won't fuel a fire if your engine blows (which intrious is known for helping along).

Turbocharging is better if you have the time, patience and money. If I were to do something, I'd get the turbocharger, and if that is still not enough then maybe add nitrious on, but definitely turbo first.

The fuel issue is possibly accurate, though I can't say. It seems flawed to me just out of the nature of how all of that stuff works (low RPMs isn't aiming for a ton of gas and high powered explosions, you want that higher up in the range, low RPMs are for gas mileage.... if you get into racing you will (if your good) never see low RPMs. You will drop the clutch at 2-3K rpm, and shift at redline which puts you around 3-5K rpm in the next gear... so you're never going to see the lower RPMs)

but it seems to me that overall it WOULD be good only if you have a forced induction system, I think if your running a cai or ram or stock intake its not going to need any more fuel than the stock fuel pump can give you, and once you get into turbocharging and nitrious your probably want to step up to a much bigger fuel pump so that you don't have to change the injector size, you just increase the pressure :)

Just my idea, none of that is fact its just what makes sense to me in my head. I do know that backpressure increases low end torque at the expense of high end horsepower... so if you get a high-flow cat, it decreases low end torque while increasing peak HP.

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thanks, ya i really dislike nitrous too hahaha, as for turbocharging i wasnt going to do that...i like N/A engines my dad, i just found out, purchased some seals and gaskets from Honda but i still need more...i was always gonna increase compression but the thing im worried about is if it will still be able to drive everyday, or will i have to get another car...but im sure ill figure it out the farther i go

[TheFirstNutZo]

the guy I know who has 11:1 compression on his F22A runs it as a daily driver without a hitch, as long as you run premium it ought to be just fine.. its going to ping if you run something lower though. Turbocharging ain't bad, and on a daily driver you can SAFELY run about 6-7lbs boost (not even building the engine), all the time and its fine on a daily driver.

Of course a H22 is going to give you some pretty hefty power, turbo or not. Look around on the web and see what people have done safely.

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well i did some lookin at it looks like the valvtrain setup i want is gonna be a couple grand...oh well, i think im gonna start with the block first...i was told to buy some JE or Arias pistons...anyone have one they prefer?