View Full Version : supercharger vs turbocharger
vindictivejoker
10-10-2004, 07:19 PM
doin the h22 swap, need some more speed. been checkin stuff out and superchargers aren't that popular. im just wondering why and if you guys have any input, let me know.
Envious_Accord
10-10-2004, 07:45 PM
turbo. get some internals so you will be able to turn the boost up higher than 7lbs
5thGenLX
10-10-2004, 10:21 PM
i prefer super but its more expensive. the reason the turbo is more popular is because the super requires some power to make power while the turbo does not. it runs off two sep parts of the engine. thats why you hear a lot about supercharged v8's and such and mostly only turbo'd 4 and 6. even though a 6 would pump nicely with a super people like turbos cuz they are cheaper and on weaker engines like most hondas, they give more than a turbo.
feilong
10-11-2004, 07:52 AM
the reason the turbo is more popular is because it requires some power to make power while the turbo does not. people like turbos cuz they are cheaper and on weaker engines like most hondas, they give more than a
turbo.
The statement above makes no sense at all? maybe you were typing in a hurry But I'm confused on what your trying to say. Supercharges are poular because you don't have to do anything to your engine really, to get one put on, it's an instant boost of power. Turbos on the other hand you will get way more out of than a supercharger depending on how much boost you run. On a Honda a turbo is way more expensive because you have to build up the internals to handle the turbo. With a supercharger you just slap it on.
Accord94_4DSC
10-11-2004, 08:45 AM
True that the turbo is more expensive, but since the super drives off the crankshaft, it saps some power from the engine to help make more power. The turbo uses spent exhaust gas pressure to do the same job as the super, without the drag on the engine. In the breakdown:
Turbo: Upside, no drag, higher power gain with moderate effort. Downside, needs cooling, lags due to exhaust pressure.
Super: Upside, no cooling needed, easy to install. Downside, uses power to make power, drags on crankshaft.
See if you can find a side by side comparison of a super and a turbo on the same engine. Decide by the results, or make your own decision.
AllShowNoGo
10-11-2004, 10:05 AM
i prefer turbo as well but with turbo you get turbo lag which you dont get with a supercharger i have seen supercharged preludes and supercharged s2000's along with seeing them both with turbos too
AccordEx
10-11-2004, 11:18 AM
who the hell makes supercharger for H22A?
94BoMexaccord
10-11-2004, 11:52 AM
who the hell makes supercharger for H22A?
i think jackson racing does.
AllShowNoGo
10-11-2004, 12:05 PM
yes i believe they do
accord_130mph
10-11-2004, 12:37 PM
I like superchargers since you get the power from start until finish. Unlike Turbos when you get lots of power towards the end. I would think they are more realiable since most Beamers and Benz have them.
Envious_Accord
10-11-2004, 01:13 PM
superchargers have a low boost setting that you cant bump up all that high while a turbo you can push high boost out if it. it also depends on how big the turbo is if you have a t3/t4 turbo set up on a h22 it will spool pretty quick and will put more power to the wheels than a supercharged h22
5thGenLX
10-11-2004, 03:49 PM
umm the guy who posted after me pretty much said what i ment to say. and yes i was typing fast so it didnt make total sense. jackson racing makes a super for the h22. i prefer super because its always on and i prefer a nice torquey engine.
Asiandude03
10-11-2004, 11:35 PM
It depends on what you want the power for. If you want to do 1/4 miles supercharger is good and bad. Reason for because you get the boost of power all the way through the power band unlike the turbo which usually kicks around 3,000 rpms. This leading to burning out your tires with too much power at start. Another thing is that you are going to have way less problems with a supercharger than a turbo. Bad side of a supercharger is you are going to burn more gas and it is harder to adjust if you need more pounds of boost. Also another good thing about superchargers is that they run much cooler on your engine less worrsies about engine heating up or the supercharger.
Turbos on the other hand is very easy to adjust the pounds of boost. eats less gas because it doesn't stay engaged all the time. Great for more high end power. Down side is a lot more problems, harder to install, have to worry about heatting up and more maintance is needed to keep it in top condiction.
ridinlo95accord
10-12-2004, 07:12 AM
a buddy of mine has a grand prix GTP with an upgraded supercharger with internals rebuilt and he was pushing 18 lbs, i that he was bs'ing me but i rode in it and it was a bad motha we smoked a vette, i didnt believe it. he was running high 11's on a good day, but consistent low 12's. Fast bitch, however i would rather have turbo instead of super, but if you go super man let us know how it is!!
nitrousoxsys
10-19-2004, 03:50 PM
Turbocharger all the way! it makes a sweet spooling sound and blow off sound. Turbo = Imports, where superchargers = Domestics. Kinda? anyone agree? No? Ok....
5thGenLX
10-19-2004, 05:17 PM
my dad has the pontiac grand prix gtp and its got the super on it and its got awesome power all the way up the rpms thats why i love it. i've driven and rode in turbo'd and super'd cars and personally i prefer the super, feels stronger i guess.
jbaccord
10-24-2004, 05:13 PM
I've heard a lot of cases that Jackson Racing Superchargers are bad about the belt slipping. Not something you want to happen. Thats why I've come to the conclusion to go with Turbo.
jason2713
11-24-2004, 08:30 AM
I'm still waiting for a turbo for my 2003 accord, they making one yet?
feilong
11-24-2004, 10:36 AM
piece one together you'll save money and get a way better turbo than just buying a turbo kit. If you need a list let me know and I'll post it for you.
cashmoney0596
11-24-2004, 09:08 PM
ive heard that it was harder to get consistant runs out of a turbo motor since the boost changes alot and the super is constant but im happy with my turbo i havnt had ne problems yet but let me know if the super is better ill change mine over
Peto_v6
11-25-2004, 09:29 AM
Some guy from a shop told me that i could supercharge my 96 v6 for like $2000. I think it will be pretty cool since there are no turbos for my car(accord 96 v6). I like turbos because they really popular and people know alot about them. Also i like the sound, i am not shure how a super sounds but from what i heared it also sounds nice. N E ways for me it's a supercharger because there is no turbo for my car. Do u guys know what gives more power?
birdman
11-25-2004, 12:35 PM
Some guy from a shop told me that i could supercharge my 96 v6 for like $2000. I think it will be pretty cool since there are no turbos for my car(accord 96 v6). I like turbos because they really popular and people know alot about them. Also i like the sound, i am not shure how a super sounds but from what i heared it also sounds nice. N E ways for me it's a supercharger because there is no turbo for my car. Do u guys know what gives more power?
A turbo should give more power and at 3000rpm and up and better if u got a beefed up top-end. A super gives about 60-100hp but throughout the rpms.
They both got their pro and cons. Depends on what you are really looking for. Are u wanting this power for track, a daily driver, or both??
5peedCoupe
11-25-2004, 02:54 PM
umm turbo u get more power.. and u get the wrooooooooooomm.... psssssssttttt
Peto_v6
12-01-2004, 04:12 PM
I Don't Really Do Track Racing, But I Want It For Both. Which Should I Get? Plus Which One Is Cheaper?
Ricanstylz00
12-01-2004, 05:05 PM
I Don't Really Do Track Racing, But I Want It For Both. Which Should I Get? Plus Which One Is Cheaper?
You also have to add to the equation that turbos are more maintenance than supers and are more touchy'er. So If you plan on getting a turbo, be prepared to learn a lot about them otherwise you'll be spending the money having someone else working on it. Of course your gonna want to study about the super as well, but like I said, the turbo is more complicated.
jbaccord
12-01-2004, 05:19 PM
After doing my own research I've come to the conclusion the Supercharger is just a little cheaper. No internal or ignigtion work in needed on the supercharger. The only other major upgrades needed were fuel deliverly and cooling. Jackson Racing recomends replacing the radiator if it has over 75k on it, a replacement not upgrade. Jackson Racing was turning out almost 250whp with just the Supercharger, Header and Cat-back exhaust. Go check out the website to see a total of 5 differnt dyno runs. While you can just bolt-on the turbo you can't get the #'s out of it until you start internal, fuel, and cooling work as well.
cashmoney0596
12-01-2004, 07:01 PM
im not sure but about the maintenance if u think since the turbo is seperate from the engine yeah its more expensive but if it brakes its just the tubo if the super breakes ur changing the whole engine which would be more?? i dunno
Peto_v6
12-03-2004, 10:18 PM
i don't know guys " but there are NO turbos for my car" so i have no choice. Supercharge....power coming soon!
"96 Accord Ex v6 Supercharge" Hummmm sounds good!