can u make it street legal

[INITIAL accorD]

Alright i know that the H22a is not smog-able in california but is there a way to modify it so it is street legal. I can find some domestic h22's at the local juck yards but they don't seem to have V-TEC which i really want. I could jus be a noob which i am but i thought all of them came w/ v-tec. Also i was thinking it would be a good idea put in some internal mods on the engine since it's going to be easy to work on out of the car anyways. Will the internal mods have any effect on performance right away, i was under the impression that w/o the standard intake, headers, exhaust the inernals wont have as mush of an effect.... again i'm probably wrong. Any feedback would be a help thanx.

[ACCLUDE]

Lot of questions, but they're good ones.

ALL H22's are VTEC. You might be looking at the H23 which is non-VTEC

Internals like cams, pistons, valves, etc. have a bigger affect on performance than any bolt-ons like intake, exhaust, etc. Internal mods are just much more expensive and require much more labor and therefore not as commonly done. There's also a lot more to it than just pulling out the old part and putting in the new one. For example, To change the pistons the entire motor needs to be dismantled. The pistons need to be inspected and balanced. new rings need to be installed and measured. The cylinder walls need to be honed. When re-assebling the motor, you have about 100 bolts that all need to be set to specific torque settings along with lubricating certain parts and there's a certain order things are done and tons more stuff I'm not even gonna get into. Basically it's very involved and very labor intensive. You need to know what you're doing in order for it to turn out ok. If you take any shortcuts, it will only screw you in the end.

Hope that's what you were looking for.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

i thought that the h22 was smogable swap for the accords, aslong as it is not the jdm swap..?? damit im confused....

[ACCLUDE]

I'm not toally sure about CA. They have the strictest rules. From what I understand, if it is an H22 that has the CA emissions package then it's straight. If it's the USDM with 49 state emissions equipment then it's not legal. If it's the JDM then it's definitely not legal.

I could be wrong so please correct me if I am.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

ill look into it for my area.. an post back.

[INITIAL accorD]

Ok i get it now, all h22's have V-Tec. So the internals will have a big efect on the perfomance right away but i should leave the intallation to the pro's. No problem. I was thinking about possibly doing those mods while my car was in the shop getting the motor swapped i think the price is going to go way up w/ the mods that i want to put in plus the work you started to describe. Can u give me a rough estimate on how much i should scream when i recieve the bill for this thing. Now this is going to sound a lil redundent but is there a way to make a JDM H22 steet legal and is it called the H22a instead of just H22?

[jdmaccordbo!916]

as far as i know in cali..jdm is jdm. there isno way to make it legal.. the only thin you can do is go to a ref an have them visualy inspectt the car.. but even now that is getting to bea bitch to do i here... you might jus b better off getting the usdm swap done... if you wnatit to be legal that is, if you dont careaobt that shit then go jdm..

[96Accord96]

So what is the engine model that is H22 California Legal?

[Kristyle05]

does anyone know if the f20b is leagal in cali.

[H22accord]

The only h23 I know that IS vtec is the h23a1 outta a '92-'96 Prelude Si (USA).

[whoaitslen2]

JDM motors can be made legal in Cali. Motor has to be same year or newer than your car, same on board diagnostics type, clean running catalytic converter, and have all sensors equivalent to USDM spec. That means if your JDM motor has missing sensors due to a different ECU you must run a USDM ECU (not always the case) and all proper sensors, wires, plugs. You also have to run clean too and that can be taken care of by proper care and maintenence. If its equipped with any aftermarket parts (which isnt recommended when trying to legalize, Refs are real anal about mods) it better have a c.a.r.b. sticker on it or the Ref will send you home. I know many people with legalized JDM motors. They all ran stock or 99% stock motors, ran clean tests, and were given the BAR sticker. BAR sticker means your JDM, UDSM, EDM motor has passed inspections and is A-OK to run in your car.

[Kristyle05]

so if its got all the right sensors and is newer than your car its ok and leagal?

[whoaitslen2]

-engine same year or newer
-engine that is from same type of vehicle (car motor to car motor... no suv motors in your accord, sorry)
-all proper sensors equivalent to USDM spec and in working order
-same on board diagnostics type as car was originally equipped or newer
-if equipped with aftermarket parts (not recommended), each part should show a CARB number
-pass sniffer test

Visit this page and research everything. http://www.arb.ca.gov/homepage.htm Also call the Ref you plan on going to to make sure you have done everything to your car possible to legalize your motor transplant. Good luck.

[96Accord96]

So lets say I order an H22 off of off the Top End Motorsports site, what am I going to need to do/buy in order for it to be legal to run that engine in my 96 Accord?