got mods?

[xcountrirunr2]

I've got an 03 accord coupe, 4cyl. Recently put on aem intake, dc sports header, dc sports tcs exhaust, tanabe springs to lower about an 1 1/2 inches. I'll admit its pretty nasty, and the mods made a huge difference in performance. Next few months I'll get some pistons, regrind my camshafts, port and polish, ignition, spark plugs, radiator, etc. Anyone else with an 03 doing anything to their car yet. Seems like I'm the only one, oh and whats the word on the street about a turbo kit or supercharger for the 4cyl coming out soon?

[vasponger]

yeah we really dont get much traffic from the 7th gens, what the engine code for the 7th gens? i thought there was a supercharger out for them, i havnt seen any turbos for them yet, im sure you can put a kit together and get custom pipes and manifold, prob cost a lot though

[TheFirstNutZo]

I guess most of the people who actually have the money to buy an 03 isn't into racing and the like, also most racers/modders don't like the angles on the 7th gens.. but its good to see at least someone is into them :). I also thought that there was a supercharger out for the 7th gen, but as I'm a 4th genner myself I haven't looked too hard. In any event as vasponger said it shouldn't be TOO difficult to do a custom turbo setup, although it may set you back quite a bit.

[xcountrirunr2]

engine code is a K24A4

[matts]

how do you like the TCS exhaust? i was looking at it, and it almost sounds too good to be true. more power, stock sound. what do you think?

[xcountrirunr2]

seriously the tcs exhaust is awesome. Its not loud and annoying like other exhausts. The sound is deep and throaty, and I couldn't be happier, and yea I think it adds somewhere around 10 hp...the people who installed it said it was the nicest they've ever seen. From cat to tip it is all chrome, and there is almost no backpressure.

[matts]

damnit- i want one bad now. thanks for your help though.

[TheFirstNutZo]

depending on your car engine's model, no backpressure might not be a good thing you may wanna check that because on some cars (I know the F22A's at least) need a little bit of backpressure or the valves don't seat properly and your gas mileage starts to get shitty withoutany gains.

[takezo]

Uhm... K-Series engine. Just thinking, maybe it's the same engine with JDM Inspire engine?

[xcountrirunr2]

doesn't affect my gas mileage anyways, stats say my car gets about 24ish miles to the gallon, I get that usually, probably even better actually. I went 465 miles on a tank of gas just recently, thats above 30 miles to the gallon.

[vasponger]

not bad! i usually only get about 225-250 on 3/4 of a tank..i dont know how big my tank is though

[matts]

depending on your car engine's model, no backpressure might not be a good thing you may wanna check that because on some cars (I know the F22A's at least) need a little bit of backpressure or the valves don't seat properly and your gas mileage starts to get shitty withoutany gains.

it was my understanding that backpressure is the enemy, no matter what engine. if the valves needed the help of backpressure to seat properly, that would mean that the springs were designed too light, and stronger springs would solve that problem. again, if the springs were not strong enough to seat the springs, there would be a huge problem on the compression stroke, because the compression in the cylinder is much greater than any backpressure, and it would blow the valve open, losing everything.

this is just in theory, like almost everything having to do with exhaust design and backpressure, i'm not ripping on you, just presenting another threory.

[TheFirstNutZo]

I honestly do not know. What you just said made a lot of sense, but I also remember Pattrick telling us to leave a low-flow cat converter on our cars because the slight backpressure makes our F22s run better. I don't understand why, what you say makes sense, but he usually is right on the money with this stuff.

[matts]

there may not be a right answer. like i said, a lot of issues dealing with exhaust pressure are not solved yet, because of the different effects on pressure and stuff like that. i think a lot of the issues are because there aren't very accurate ways to measure that kind of stuff.

[TheFirstNutZo]

couldn't you just put a pressure meter right in the top of the headers? That would seem relatively accurate, and if you hooked it to a computer you could get the mean averages and so forth, peak pressure, and add/remove parts accordingly :)

[TheFirstNutZo]

hell, hook it up to a dyno at the same time, and tweak the backpressure on the fly to find the peak amount... that would be pretty sweet. Just take an exhaust tube and put an adjustable valve on it, and slowly tweak it in accordance with the dyno, and run test after test after test to see what your benifits/losses are... If you did that you could figure out EXACTLY (to probably .5psi or so) what the best amount of backpressure is, performance-wise. .. do it with a bunch of different engines and see if its the same across the board or not, and whether NO backpressure really is the best way to go.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

here click on the links below.. therer are a few of the new accords on here, just click on were it says honda...
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/default.asp
this is one of the 2003 accord concept cars that i found on the site as well..
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/accord_concept.asp

[TheFirstNutZo]

I like the 04 Lancer EVO, that looks pretty cool... kinda like a lowered 4th gen/7th gen hybrid.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

ya that car is pretty bad it scool in a different kind of way...

[TheFirstNutZo]

I wonder... are there any rally kits for honda accords? like upgraded brakes, awd, etc. ?

[jdmaccordbo!916]

well you could always make your car awd it would not be cheap, but it is possible to do... you would have to custom fabricate the transmission alot, but it would be so fun to drive when it was all done...
an as for custom kits an stuff like htat, why not design your own kit, an look intogetting it made... i see a way for you to possibly make money.. maybe even get it done whith a pattent or something so that others cant bite off of your style in the manufacturing business... (you know how there are 40 differnt versions of the BW kit but they all look the same).. etc.. maybe custom fabricating a rally accord could be something for you to look into an possibly do...

[TheFirstNutZo]

bo jove he's right! :) I'll take alook around and see if I could maybe port over a subaru or a lancer awd drivetrain, transfer case, and so on. This might be perdy cool... If I could get AWD onto an Accord I could turbocharge a H22, AND maintain traction in the first 3 gears :)

[jdmaccordbo!916]

ya it will work though.. awd that is.. the guy that is supposed to get the jdm lights for me is building an awd civiv si... an its got hte b2o an so on.. so you know if it is done to a civic, then it can be done to an accord...
what i realy wanna mess with is the f20c...<~~~ s2000 motor an trannie.. oh ya that would be the ish... rear wheel drive accord, (pure drifter for sure).. :p

[TheFirstNutZo]

yes no doubt it CAN be done, the question is, is it worth the headache? I still needta look into it though cuz it sounds awesome.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

headachs are always worth it when it involves us trying to be different from the rest of the social groups out there.. i mean shit we already drive accords... they used too laugh at us, now they all wanna drive one as well.. bitters...

[TheFirstNutZo]

point taken. I'll research it see what I can find. Anyone know if it has ever been tried to put a Mitsubishi or a Subaru engine into an accord? I read that our manifolds are swappable with the turbo 2nd gen mitsubishi eclipses... what about the engine? If we had the added parts capability of subaru and mitsubishi our options would skyrocket.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

i dunno that would be tight though to see what would bhappen.. i mean shit you can do just about anything as long as you put your mind to it.. i know a guy that put the supra trannie on the is300 before the manuel is300 was even out... possiblitys are endless..

[TheFirstNutZo]

yep. You just have to have spare car parts, or the money to buy 'em, and time, and a creative mind. I am kinda liking the idea of taking shit out of other brands of cars and putting them into accords. that'd be kinda awesome.. "I have a Honda Accord, Mitsubishi Evo8, and Mitsubishi Lancer hybrid... the Evo8 engine, the accord body, and the lancer awd and suspension."

[jdmaccordbo!916]

so then what would it be called an accord MITSUVOCER8...hehehe i crack myself up sometimes... lol

[vasponger]

you gotta remeber though some lexus cars have a supra engine so it prob wasnt that hard..

[TheFirstNutZo]

yep we just need somebody here with the money to buy a bunch of front clips :) and then we can play with 'em and see what fits where.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

yep we just need somebody here with the money to buy a bunch of front clips :) and then we can play with 'em and see what fits where.sounds like a job for patrick to me... heheheh

[TheFirstNutZo]

if I had the cash I'd do it. That would be some wicked sweet fun. I know some body shops/wrecker shops that could probably get me good hookups on wreckers too.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

then if you know these guys, then you better try an get it going now... hook ups dont last forever, so use it while it is around....

[TheFirstNutZo]

actually this one is going to last a while. There are definite benifits of having a dad that knows almost every mechanic/ auto body shop / parts place / body repair place :) Since he has so many vehicles for his business he is constantly getting shit repaired, and since the business is about repairing trees the crews have a habit of dropping logs onto say... the top of the truck instead of on the ground where its supposed to go :)

[jdmaccordbo!916]

wow then you better start working on those hook ups then i get your car moving in the hooked up derection...

[TheFirstNutZo]

I'll get to it soon :) you get on a 4th gen and get rid of that 5th gen. :)

I should start bringing in some cash, get my debt to parents taken care of and be ready to call up my hookups and start getting shit to play with :) Also, Pat is only about 45-60 mins from me now, so I can probably work together with him on some of this stuff now if I get into it heavily.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

rrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhtttt ttt...lmao get rid of the 5ht gen..heheheheh thats a good one you should look into doing some stand up comedy or something... ya right, i would not get rid of the 5th gen, well ok maybe this one.. but i would get another one in replacement of it..heheheh

[TheFirstNutZo]

4th gens are better... come to the GOOD side of Accords ;-)

[vasponger]

but the dark side is so much stronger, even luke comes to the dark side in the end.

[jdmaccordbo!916]

but the dark side is so much stronger, even luke comes to the dark side in the end.
well said bro... the dark side is much better :D

[TheFirstNutZo]

I know, the dark side is the good side. The light side is for chumps and chumpettes. Now as I was saying, come over to the GOOD side :)

[jdmaccordbo!916]

well then you would be refering to the 5th gen guys.. we are the dark side...lmfao

[TheFirstNutZo]

no you aren't. Take a look at Star Wars Episode I... there are like 200000 light side guys, and like 2 dark side guys. Same applies to 5th gens versus 4th gens. :)

[jdmaccordbo!916]

but that says right there that the dark side is better.. we dont have everyone wanting to be the same...(such as your 200000 light side) lol since we are only two.. we are alot stronger...

shut it.. yes we are that is why you have to have your 200000 to are two...lol

[TheFirstNutZo]

uh no. I was saying 4th gens that are pretty are rarer than 5th gens, which makes us better and cooler.

[vasponger]

my 5th gen can beat up your 4th gen

[TheFirstNutZo]

possibly. possibly. we will have to find out this spring :) technically you should have about 10hp more than me, but I think my car is a bit lighter, not too sure though. In any event 4geez are cooler so shut up everyone! its decided. I say it, and Pat says it, and thats that :) heheheh I can already feel a backlash :-/

[vasponger]

then its setteled high noon this spring you mee toe to toe at the track!

[TheFirstNutZo]

hehehe I suppose we could do that :) I've never actually ran on a track, how much does it cost?

[vasponger]

i dont know ive never been either

[TheFirstNutZo]

well somebody ought to know :-/ I would do it on the street but I'm really afraid of getting a ticket (not too worried about hurting others/crashing), cuz I think I'd lose my license till I'm 21 not sure though.

[Thunderbread]

Keep it on the track.

We just had several bad wrecks here.

Hope that doesn't bring too much unwanted attention to our hobby/sport in this area.

Anywayz....my 5 cents worth...

[vasponger]

hehehe my foot has like turrets when along side a fellow certain car on an open highway and just presses itself down i cant control it

[vasponger]

hah thats a great excuse, sorry officer it wasnt me, my foot did it i cant control it

[TheFirstNutZo]

my right foot is like 25% titanium, so I could say... the metal was weighing me down I'm not used to the new weight yet... terribly sorry about that....

[performanceaccord]

hey whats up i am mike from performance accord you might want to check out our head packages for that car. It comes with the ported and polished head big bore throttle bodie high performance camshaft, Idles like stock and you will be very impressed with the performance. If you have any questions please let me know